2012 - True or False Prodictions? Struggling with doubts

(Important update about this article, updated April, 2010:
God is granting 15-more years according the prophecy of Isaiah 38.)

The following was put out on my forum November 9, 2009. I post it here not only to show the struggle I am having with this word about 2012, but also to reveal a few more reasons why I feel all signs point to something very significant happening in 2012 despite my misgivings. (2010 to 2017?)

The following contains still more clarifications and calculations even in addition to the forum posts. See "Predictions about 2012" for the first and main document.

Please pray for me for confirmation and courage to share an important prophetic word that I believe God is showing me.

(Important update about this article, updated April, 2010:
God is granting 15-more years according the prophecy of Isaiah 38.)

Its concerns the year 2012. I am not exactly sure what God is saying, I could guess, but it seems God is bring it to my attention in different ways. However, Satan has muddied the waters concerning this date and it seems that even Satan thinks something is going to happen on 2012.

But just because the devil makes predictions about the same time period, this does not make it false. The devil's goal is to turn away honest people by repulsing them by using repulsive agents to spread the message. Remember the women in the bible who had a devil, yet correctly went about announcing that Paul was a servant of God sent "to show you the way of salvation"!

I am not sure if it is just me or if it is because things are not in stone about that date. If they are not in stone then I need to know if God still wants me to speak on the subject of 2012 more than what I have already, but instead to just tell people my measure of uncertainty?

All the time frames that I have been studying for nearly 20 years appear to be coming together to a head, pointing to this one date, 2012, and that to my own surprise! I did not see it coming and it kind of snuck up on me!

I also took note of what day God began to confirm how all that He has shown me up until now for the past 20 years comes together pointing to 2012? He began to confirm it on the anniversary of when the flood occurred, a type of the end of the world! (Kislev 17). This is the day He began to open my eyes to 2012. (I think that I have been shutting it out of my mind some years now because of all the media hype surrounding it, assuming that 2012 could not be important because of the hype. "It would be too obvious", and so went my thinking.)

And yet I still don't think that it will be the end of the world, nevertheless, something very significant appears to be lining up.

No other date in the last 3000 years is aligned like 2012 does according to all the numeric patterns that I have had on the Internet now for 15 years. And it happens that the world is also absorbed by this date as well. Coincidence?

This causes me to wonder that maybe God won't do anything on 2012 just so that the devil will not get the credit. On the other hand, maybe it is just part of the "great delusion" that God said that He will send upon those "who do not love the truth". In other words, God may allow the wicked to believe that their own gods foretold it when in fact it was merely demons guessing the timing according to past patterns that they themselves are well aware of. After all, much of the bible codes pictograms that He has been revealing to me over the past 10 years are about a contest between the One True God and all other gods as to who can really predict the future.

Here are my thoughts on 2012 so far --- put out with a measure of trepidation. "True and False Prophecy: Predictions about 2012".

The below chart is only telling part of the whole story.

So please pray for guidance and courage and revelation!

Thanks.

To the above post can be added that, 1260 + 1335 years from the fall of Jerusalem in 586 BC to 2012. It looks like the 3.5 years from AD 2010 to 2014 is very significant numerically. (Rev. 12, Dan.12.)

But will this span simply be another three-and-a-half years of more and more signs and gestures of a still future time period much further in the future?

For sure, at the very least, there will be signs and wonders shown during this period of time, either pointing to the still more distant future --- or to the very thing --- that is, the last period of time that winds up this age as predicted by all the prophets of the bible!

Bottom line, I don't want to look like a fool and mess up God's plan for my life!

Note that the below dates on the chart have been the theme of my other websites dating all the way back to October 24, 1991. Every one of these key dates are to do with the fall of an empire and all six align with 2012. This is true of no other date.

Other dates may have two or three aligned, and a few even have four aligned, but 2012 alone has all six aligned, --- and still more time frames not even seen here! (For how 722 BC , 612 BC and 539 BC align to AD 2012, see the main document: "True and False Prophecy: Predictions about 2012". For how 1446 BC of the chart aligns to 2012 read on! For 1876 BC, well, all other dates on the chart already align with it, which was the original point of the chart! 1876 BC is the only date more overlapped than AD 2012, and 1876 BC was of seminal importance; it was when Israel entered Egypt during the seven-year famine of Joseph and there in captivity Israel grew into a nation.)

Even the year 2012, that ended a cycle on the Mayan calendar that dates back to Aug. 11/13th of 3114 BC (5200 x 360 days), is 1290 + 1290 years to roughly the fall of Babylon, and then again another 1260 + 1290 years to AD 2017, which is seven literal years after the said 2010 date that we just talked about!

This makes two seven-year periods of years (rather than days), and agrees with the theme of the Writing on the Wall website about the two seven-year periods of Joseph. That is, the seven years of plenty and the seven years of famine.

There is a lot more to say on the Mayan date of 3114 BC, which if the Lord wills I will declare some time soon. But for now you can do your own calculations from Aug. 11 (or 13 depending on scholars), 3114 BC (Julian count #584282) which is when the current Mayan cycle began, and then to December 21 (23?) AD 2012 when the cycle ends.

Note that the Mayans had three calendars, not just this one that we hear about based on 260 days, a multiple of 13. They also had a year of 360 days and a year of 365 year (not 365.25 as we do). Note that 3114 BC, Aug. 11/13, plus 1290 + 1290 (a type of seven-years of years), plus 1260 + 1290 years (also a type of seven-years of years) comes to AD 2017, seven years after 2010. And this double seven-year period agrees with the theme of Joseph's two seven-year periods, the first of plenty, the second of famine!

But I hear someone say, "But the Mayan year was 365 or 360 days, not like our Gregorian (or Julian) year of 365.2425 (or 365.25) days in a year."

Yes, but over the span of this many years from 3114 BC to AD 2012 there happened to elapse just this, "3.5 years"! And this effectively divides the seven years between 2010 and 2017 in half! (Which is what the bible also does with a seven-year period.)

This seven-year period that spans from the autumn of 2010 to the autumn of 2017, overlaps both the Jewish New Year in 2017 (Sept. 21), and the end of the seven days of Passover on March 16, 2014, and also on the first day of the seven days of Tabernacles on Sept. 19, 2017. (The last two examples are on the 360 calendar of the prophets. It is important to read that document first before this one if you have not already.) To land on all these Jewish festive dates as it divides this seven-year period in half is nothing short of phenomenal!

It happens that from Aug. 11, 3114 BC, unto Nov. 25, 2017, are 1290 + 1290 + 1290 + 1335 years (using just the Mayan 360-day year.) (For the significance of these time frames, see first document, "True and False Prophecy: Predictions about 2012".)

And get this: when we go back 3.5 years (1260 days) from Nov. 25, 2017 (3.5 years times 360 days = 1260 days), we arrive at June 14, 2014, and then another 1260 days (to make a full span of seven-years) we arrive at Jan. 1, 2011, which is our Gentile New Year. And this New Year follows the Jewish New Year that we just talked about, that lands on Sept. 21, 2010, three months earlier. And keep in mind, that the big deal about 2012 to the Mayans was Dec. 21/23, which marked their "New Year", and thus the start of another 5200-year cycle. Therefore, the figures coordinate with our New Year, the Jewish New Year, and the Mayan New Year; all three are marked out!

Not just that, if you look closely at all that has been written here about these dates, one thing all have in common, they approximate the four corners of the year, that is, the spring, summer, autumn and winter equinoxes.

But I am saying that the One True God is Lord over all, including how the Mayans sought to understand the cycles of the sun and moon that God created. God seems to have reserved a purpose in it, as we have just observed. A warning for this generation?

(We hope to put out the above information about the Mayan connection to 2012 soon, complete with charts. Any numeric errors you may find, please notify me so that I can correct them. Keep in mind that scholar say the cycle began either Aug. 11 or 13th, 3114 BC, and that the mention of 'Tabernacles' and 'Passover' is based upon the 360 calendar of the prophets. See my website, www360calendar.com. Further insights have been found to do with the Mayan calendar since this was written that will be added soon, counting back 1335 and 1290 days from Nov. 25, 2017, in keeping with the same in years.)

God is using the pattern of Ezekiel in my life as far as bible time frames is concerned. (This has nothing to do with me on a personal level, but rather that God often ties his message to the messenger. Why? Because God is a personal God, as well as transcendent.)

I turn 50 years of age in December of 2012.

For example, I was born to the day 1260 + 1290 years after the siege of Jerusalem began, (360 calendar). God began revealing the numbers to me Oct 24, 1991, which was 430 days before my 30th birthday, and thus 1290 + 1290 years from the siege of Jerusalem. Recall that Ezekiel laid on his side 430 days beginning on his 30th birthday.

(This was also the alignment of 430-year cycles dating back to the 430-years that Israel spent in Egypt. My calling on Oct. 24, 1991, was 3.5 years {1290 days} before April of 1995, which was 430 x 8 and 9 back to this 430-years in Egypt, which is also 1290 x 3 years to when Israel entered Egypt in 1876 BC, and 1290 x 2 years to when Ezekiel and Jeremiah returned back to Egypt and Babylon in exile.)

Ezekiel's ministry lasted until he was 50 years of age when he received the vision of the new temple (Ezek. 40) , and thus, as a priest in captivity, he prophesied and was active between 30 and 50 years of age, which is when a priest was active. Priests also retired at 50 years of age and began at 30.

It happens that I will turn 50 years of age in December of 2012, the year and month in which so much is being made of.

Is this just another coincidence?

Maybe.

Moreover, my wife was born 2300 days (Dan. 8) before me inclusive, or 1290 + 1290 days if the 280 days of pregnancy are included, (2300 + 280 = 2580, or 1290 x 2 days.).

She was also born to the hour, 40 x 49 (40 jubilees) from when Jesus was born, that is, the evening of Tishri 6th, 5 BC, which is the anniversary of when Adam was created.

However, on the 360 calendar she was born on Tabernacles, etc. Tishri 6th and also the 15th, in 5 BC. Both are the two most popular dates for when scholar figure Jesus was born. And she was born 40 jubilees from both of them!

There is nothing special about us or you, but, "Here I am and the children the Lord has given to me. We are for signs and symbols in Israel". This is true of all God's children, though it is not given to most to know or even care. My daughter Sarah was born in May, 40 years after Israel became a nation. She was born in Grace Hospital, Toronto. She was the first grandchild born on either side of the family. The next day my brother-in-law's daughter was born. They called her "Sarah", as well. Except she was born in Mount Sinai Hospital. Symbolically speaking, the one under grace, the other under law, like the two Sarah's spoken of in the book of Galatians, and they were both born a generation of 40 years after when Israel was born as a nation!)

My wife is aligned to the dates in Ezekiel as well. She was born Sept. 11, 1956. Thus, she is 1260 + 1290 years from Ezekiel. It happened that 45 years later on Sept. 11, 2001, the Twin Towers fell, that is 1260 + 1335 years from Ezekiel, (Daniel 12 and Rev. 12). My wife was a sign.

My point of all that is to say: If past events took into account events in my life (and there is a huge amount more than what I am saying here), then the fact that I turn 50 in December of 2012 takes on a much more striking and ominous tone. Perhaps, like in Ezekiel's prophecy, Israel will begin rebuilding its temple?

I don't know.

Having said all that, we do have to be cautious not to get enamored in ourselves. Our eyes must be on Jesus. All these things that I have said are really about Him, not us. He is the source and object of all prophecy. Nor were the prophecies about Ezekiel. Ezekiel's siege (Ezek. 4) was really about Jesus' siege on the cross, etc. However, God often used events in a prophets life as object lessons for them and others to learn from and to project that lesson onto the larger picture of national events. That is, what is true for Isaiah, or Ezekiel, or Hosea, was true for the nation of Israel as a whole as well.

I have written all this, not just for your sake Miki, but as a record just in case future events require evidence that I did not make these things up afterward, but that even on a personal level things pointed to 2012.

But, what will transpire in 2012 remains to be seen. Will it just be more signs and symbols that point to a more distant future?

This I do not know.

I know that there will be signs and wonders at the very least. This I am sure of, no doubt. But I do have doubt whether more than just signs and wonders will happen. Will something much more dramatic happen? God has a way of constantly stretching things, and his prophets, for the sake of souls. I am left unsure!

(Important update about this article, April 2010:
God is granting 15-more years according the prophecy of Isaiah 38.)

What is written here below in this table is what another person said in response to my earlier posts above...

I don't want to mess up anything you are doing...

But I felt led to share a few things.

Before my family fell apart in late 2005 I was keeping notes about world events and charting them on my 150 year Jewish calendar.

These are some things that occurred 7 years before 2012 (no particular order)

2005

* Deep impact was sent into space Jan. 12 ( 2 Shevat )
* Deep impact hit on July 4 (27 sivan)

*Earthquake in Iran killing 400+ Feb. 22 (13Adar)
*Earthquake in Pakistan killing 79,000 …October 8 (5 Tishri)

*Palestinian election.....Abbas winning. Jan. 9 (28 Teveth)

*Pope died ...April 2 (22 Adar II)
*Popes funeral April 8 (28 Adar II)
*Hybrid Eclipse April 8 (28 Adar II) same day of funeral
*New Pope Election April 18 (9 Nisan)

*Jericho given to Palestine March 17 (6 Adar II)
*Gaza given to Palestine… August 14 (9 Av)

*Volcano wakes up in Indonesia .. April 12 (3 Nisan)

*Hurricane Katrina that destroyed many towns including New Orleans … August 29 (24 AV)

* Mahmoud Ahmadinejad became president of Iran … August 3 …(27 Tamuz)

* Saddam hussein's trial occurred …October 19 (16 Tishri)

* United Nations World Summit … Sept. 14, 15, 16 (10,11,12 Elul)

*Lunar Eclipse (on Passover) ..April 24 ( 15 Nisan-Pesach)

*Lunar Eclipse (day before or day Succoth –Feast of Tabernacles….. October 17 (14 Tishri) after sundown

It should be noted that 2005 is also 1150 x 3 years from the Exodus. (And 1150 is the 2300 "evenings and mornings" of Daniel 8:13.)

It was originally fulfilled by Antiochus Epiphanies in 165 BC. The 1150-day period terminated with "seven days of lights", from which we get the seven days of Chanukah today. Thus, 1150 ends with a special 7 days, which is 70 days after the 7 days of Tabernacles, Tishri 15-22 and Kislev 25-Sivan 2, December, (360 calendar).

Thus, the 1150 has seven days after it.

Thus, the 1150 x 3 years from the Exodus has seven years added on to it, from 2005 to 2012, December.

Did you know that Passover-Tabernacles lunar-eclipse tetrads first began around Noah's Flood? And that they also occurred the exact day when Israel entered Egypt, and again when Jacob died (and prophesied about our future); then again with Saul, David, Solomon, etc. ...plus those more well-known recent events?

(My rant against false predictions that people make
that cast doubt on those truly led by God!)